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	<title>Comments on: This is Sparta – No Baby-Throwing Allowed (ca. 5th C BC)</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe what Plutarch wrote in was:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Nor was it in the power of the father to dispose of the child as he thought fit; he was obliged to carry it before certain triers at a place called Lesche; these were some of the elders of the tribe to which the child belonged; their business it was carefully to view the infant, and, if they found it stout and well made, they gave order for its rearing, and allotted to it one of the nine thousand shares of land above mentioned for its maintenance, but, if they found it puny and ill-shaped, ordered it to be taken to what was called the Apothetae, a sort of chasm under Taygetus; as thinking it neither for the good of the child itself, nor for the public interest, that it should be brought up, if it did not, from the very outset, appear made to be healthy and vigorous. Upon the same account, the women did not bathe the new-born children with water, as is the custom in all other countries, but with wine, to prove the temper and complexion of their bodies; from a notion they had that epileptic and weakly children faint and waste away upon their being thus bathed while, on the contrary, those of a strong and vigorous habit acquire firmness and get a temper by it, like steel. There was much care and art, too, used by the nurses; they had no swaddling bands; the children grew up free and unconstrained in limb and form, and not dainty and fanciful about their food; not afraid in the dark, or of being left alone; and without peevishness, or ill-humour, or crying. Upon this account Spartan nurses were often bought up, or hired by people of other countries; and it is recorded that she who suckled Alcibiades was a Spartan; who, however, if fortunate in his nurse, was not so in his preceptor; his guardian, Pericles, as Plato tells us, chose a servant for that office called Zopyrus, no better than any common slave. ~ &lt;a href=&quot;http://classics.mit.edu/Plutarch/lycurgus.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lycurgus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe what Plutarch wrote in was:</p>
<blockquote><p>Nor was it in the power of the father to dispose of the child as he thought fit; he was obliged to carry it before certain triers at a place called Lesche; these were some of the elders of the tribe to which the child belonged; their business it was carefully to view the infant, and, if they found it stout and well made, they gave order for its rearing, and allotted to it one of the nine thousand shares of land above mentioned for its maintenance, but, if they found it puny and ill-shaped, ordered it to be taken to what was called the Apothetae, a sort of chasm under Taygetus; as thinking it neither for the good of the child itself, nor for the public interest, that it should be brought up, if it did not, from the very outset, appear made to be healthy and vigorous. Upon the same account, the women did not bathe the new-born children with water, as is the custom in all other countries, but with wine, to prove the temper and complexion of their bodies; from a notion they had that epileptic and weakly children faint and waste away upon their being thus bathed while, on the contrary, those of a strong and vigorous habit acquire firmness and get a temper by it, like steel. There was much care and art, too, used by the nurses; they had no swaddling bands; the children grew up free and unconstrained in limb and form, and not dainty and fanciful about their food; not afraid in the dark, or of being left alone; and without peevishness, or ill-humour, or crying. Upon this account Spartan nurses were often bought up, or hired by people of other countries; and it is recorded that she who suckled Alcibiades was a Spartan; who, however, if fortunate in his nurse, was not so in his preceptor; his guardian, Pericles, as Plato tells us, chose a servant for that office called Zopyrus, no better than any common slave. ~ <a href="http://classics.mit.edu/Plutarch/lycurgus.html" rel="nofollow">Lycurgus</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: kiov</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plutarch said the babies were washed in wine, not thrown over a cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plutarch said the babies were washed in wine, not thrown over a cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all the new Archeological evidence for the  Spartans is great. It is really brings a true human face to them. Its refreshing and beautiful to see the Spartans as People and no beasts.  
 
Also I like to say this about the movie  
&quot;Tonight! we dine in a place that does not exist in our Cultural religion!&quot;  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all the new Archeological evidence for the  Spartans is great. It is really brings a true human face to them. Its refreshing and beautiful to see the Spartans as People and no beasts.  </p>
<p>Also I like to say this about the movie<br />
&quot;Tonight! we dine in a place that does not exist in our Cultural religion!&quot;</p>
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